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rajanadar
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Post: #391   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Nifty pivot Reply with quote

Jai2000 wrote:
Raja,

3 pivots u mentiond are correct. If you watch charts closely, that time price were trading below 34ema, so rejection candle's high was pivot.But now situation totally changed,price jumping above & below 34 ema! That's why you are little comfused. Just read spec sir's answer for -"vnst, profitrd, ravi" again your doubt will be clear. Raja just for you - if we got new low below 5376.15 & above 5360 on 18/3/"11, then 5420.25 would have been New pivot!

Hope it will help you to undersatnd something!

Regards,
Jai


Thanks Jai.
We got a new low below 5376.15 on 21st Mar 2011 after coming back from 34 ema @ 5420.25. However, the RSI did not go to OB at that point. Is this the reason why 5420.25 did not qualify as a pivot?
Im sorry but I m not able to get the "above 5360" condition.

Thanks again for your patience.
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Post: #392   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Swing pivots - March 23 Reply with quote

Nifty:

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5552
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5552


Copper:

30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 420.4


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Post: #393   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We got a new low below 5376.15 on 21st Mar 2011 after coming back from 34 ema @ 5420.25. However, the RSI did not go to OB at that point. Is this the reason why 5420.25 did not qualify as a pivot?

hi raja

RSI 5 Overbought or oversold we used to see only for profit booking . It has nothing to do with pivots. pivot is purely based on price highs and lows only.

My suggestion is dont get confused with RSI 5 initially. and in your chart plot only 34ema and 8ema . No volumes no lower indicators like RSI etc. For starting it will help to avoid confusion.

and dont spend too much of time in finding pivots. Believe me, finding pivot is not going to do any great help for your trading. But it is essential in long run to run on your own. As of now use speculator's daily posting of pivots and trend. and based on that, TRADE rejections and make money. If you start trading then automatically in a short period you will be another master like Spec.

All the best


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Post: #394   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Nifty Pivot! Reply with quote

Raja,

5420.25 not because of RSI5 OB,in simple way -In dwn trend if price create lower low, then highest price below the previous pivot should be our new pivot.

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Post: #395   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: 5TF Trading Reply with quote

Spec sir,

Thank you as always. This 5Tf work very well to me.Ystrday big gains in Axis & Nifty, reliance& tatasteel just 2 points SL hit. But today all trades r rocking Very Happy icon_thx

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Jai.



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Post: #396   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: EMA Reply with quote

Can u tell me which EMA is projected on these charts
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Post: #397   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re Reply with quote

Rahul,

it's 34 ema!

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Post: #398   PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 5TF Trading Reply with quote

Jai2000 wrote:
Spec sir,

Thank you as always. This 5Tf work very well to me.Ystrday big gains in Axis & Nifty, reliance& tatasteel just 2 points SL hit. But today all trades r rocking Very Happy icon_thx

Regards,
Jai.

Jai2000,
What are the pivots you are using for deciding the trend? Is it the same 15-min pivot or different? If it's different, what is the trend and pivot now for NF in 5 min TF?
Since you are trading in stocks also, when you look at the chart of a stock for the first time, how to know the trend and pivot for that stock?
Thanks,
Prabhakar.
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Post: #399   PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Swing pivots - March 24, 2011 Reply with quote

Nifty:

Nifty is still downtrending, but we got a nice bullish rejection today. When you get a rejection which is counter to the prevailing trend, you trade it as a intraday trade and the position should not be carried to the next day. Only when the rejection is in the direction of the trend, you carry the position overnight.

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5552
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5552


Copper:

Copper made a new recovery high today above 437.85 (18/3 highs). So the pivot moves to 426.4

30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 426.4


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Post: #400   PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spec Ji

Thank you for updating copper pivots daily.....

Will 451.7 (07/03 High) be a major resistance to copper........

Is it good to cover partial positions @ this level.....

Awaiting for your comments....

regards,
Diwakar R
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Post: #401   PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: SWING TRADING Reply with quote

Thank you Senior,Mr.Ravi_S for your promt and kind reply.I will surely go thro d entire discussion nd i msure all my queries wl b answered.Thanks a million once again.God Bless U Very Happy Smile thanks
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Post: #402   PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:57 am    Post subject: Swing pivots - March 25, 2011 Reply with quote

Nifty:


15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5511
30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5414


Copper:

Copper made a new pivot today at 436.55 and broke it later in the day. Now Copper is back to a downtrending mode.

30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 441.75


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Post: #403   PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Swing pivots - March 25, 2011 Reply with quote

Dear sir,

Your valuable comment in bellow points will help us so requesting you to guide us in bellow matter.

As you mentioned that in down trending market when market make new low then highest point is our swing pivot and with the help of that we came to 5552 level for down trending market. Now yesterday we found that market make new high 5553 so now we are in uptrend and sir your mentioned 15-min and 30-min. 2-different swing pivots.

Now requesting you to please guide us that when down trending swing pivot 5552 is broken then why we didn't consider lower price around 5558-5568 is our swing pivot?

Is it true that in down trending market we have to consider high price as down trend swing pivot and in Up trending market from where market found rejection (34-ema) then that candle's low is swing pivot?

Regards

Ashis

Regards
Ashis

Speculator wrote:
Nifty:


15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5511
30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5414


Copper:

Copper made a new pivot today at 436.55 and broke it later in the day. Now Copper is back to a downtrending mode.

30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 441.75


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Post: #404   PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Swing pivots - March 28, 2011 Reply with quote

ashis,

Sorry, i had incorrectly mentioned the pivots on 25 March. Both 15-min and 30-min pivots are at 5360.

Nifty:


15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5360
30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5360


Copper:


30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 441.75


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Post: #405   PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Swing pivots - March 28, 2011 Reply with quote

Dear sir,

Please don't say sorry. Because I asked question from your lessons only.

It is our pleasure that you guide us without any kind of expectation that's a great thing. In this world few people like you can do this so from the corner of my heart I'm very much thank full to you and i charts.

I learnt so many things from your blogs and I request you to forward profit taking technique in this blog. So we can understand that after taking position where we have to book our profits.

Awaiting for profit booking technique.

Regards
Ashis

Speculator wrote:
ashis,

Sorry, i had incorrectly mentioned the pivots on 25 March. Both 15-min and 30-min pivots are at 5360.

Nifty:


15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5360
30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 5360


Copper:


30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 441.75


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