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Post: #556   PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai,
many thanks for the guidance. I am attaching yesterdays minifty 15 mnts chart. 34 ema tested and rejected. So can 5592 be considered as new downswing pivot? Please advise.
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Post: #557   PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote

Prabit,

ys 5592 is a New dwn pivot.

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Post: #558   PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: Rejection Trades Reply with quote

05/05/'11- NF, Axis Rej trades.........


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Post: #559   PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: TATASTEEL - Pivot for 6th May 11 Reply with quote

Thanks Jai for your wonderful guidance!

TATASTEEL - 15 TF - 6th May 11
Downtrend
Down Swing Pivot for Cash - 593 (Jai - RSI touched 69.36 almost the OB level. Would this be valid ? If not then pivot still remains as 634.7)
Down Swing Pivot for Futures - 602.25

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Post: #560   PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:04 pm    Post subject: Tatasteel Reply with quote

Raja,

Tatasteel 13 hrs candle didnt touch 34 ema. So as u said 634.70 remains the 15Tf pivot. The 5TF pivot is 594.35

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Post: #561   PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:56 am    Post subject: Swing pivots - May 6, 2011 Reply with quote

Nifty:

Nifty finally made a new pivot at 5592

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5592
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5592


Copper:


15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 404.75

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Post: #562   PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear All,


RIL:

15 min: Downtrending, down swing pivot 987.85
30 min: Downtrending, down swing pivot 987.85
SBI:

15 min: Downtrending, down swing pivot 2727.65
30 min: Downtrending, down swing pivot 2727.65


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Post: #563   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: TATASTEEL - Pivot Point for 9th May 11 Reply with quote

Thanks Jai for the clarification!
I have a doubt - as you can see from below - the shorter TF is in uptrend while the longer TF is still bearish. How does one take trading decisions in such scenarios?

TATASTEEL - 15 TF - 9th May 11
Downtrend (No change)
Down Swing Pivot for Cash - 634.7
Down Swing Pivot for Futures - 602.25

TATASTEEL - 5 TF - 9th May 11
Uptrend
Up Swing Pivot for Cash - 581 (The chart broke through the Down Swing Pivot of 594.35 on 6th. We are now in Uptrend)
Up Swing Pivot for Futures - 582.1 (The chart broke through the Down Swing Pivot of 595.85 on 6th. We are now in Uptrend)


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Post: #564   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: TATASTEEL - Pivot Point for 9th May 11 Reply with quote

rajanadar wrote:
Thanks Jai for the clarification!
I have a doubt - as you can see from below - the shorter TF is in uptrend while the longer TF is still bearish. How does one take trading decisions in such scenarios?

TATASTEEL - 15 TF - 9th May 11
Downtrend (No change)
Down Swing Pivot for Cash - 634.7
Down Swing Pivot for Futures - 602.25

TATASTEEL - 5 TF - 9th May 11
Uptrend
Up Swing Pivot for Cash - 581 (The chart broke through the Down Swing Pivot of 594.35 on 6th. We are now in Uptrend)
Up Swing Pivot for Futures - 582.1 (The chart broke through the Down Swing Pivot of 595.85 on 6th. We are now in Uptr
Thanks!

Raja,
This will happen always.When there is a reversal,first it will happen in smaller tf, then it will happen in longer tf. If you do swing trade,do not bother to see 5 mnt tf. 5 mnt tf is for intraday.That is my understanding.Seniors will explain better.
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Post: #565   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: TATASTEEL - Pivot Point for 9th May 11 Reply with quote

Prabit:

Agree with you on TF. one point to add here is while trading on a 5tf, please be sure to check OB and OS conditions using RSI(5)


prabit wrote:
rajanadar wrote:
Thanks Jai for the clarification!
I have a doubt - as you can see from below - the shorter TF is in uptrend while the longer TF is still bearish. How does one take trading decisions in such scenarios?

TATASTEEL - 15 TF - 9th May 11
Downtrend (No change)
Down Swing Pivot for Cash - 634.7
Down Swing Pivot for Futures - 602.25

TATASTEEL - 5 TF - 9th May 11
Uptrend
Up Swing Pivot for Cash - 581 (The chart broke through the Down Swing Pivot of 594.35 on 6th. We are now in Uptrend)
Up Swing Pivot for Futures - 582.1 (The chart broke through the Down Swing Pivot of 595.85 on 6th. We are now in Uptr
Thanks!

Raja,
This will happen always.When there is a reversal,first it will happen in smaller tf, then it will happen in longer tf. If you do swing trade,do not bother to see 5 mnt tf. 5 mnt tf is for intraday.That is my understanding.Seniors will explain better.
prabit
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Post: #566   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:26 am    Post subject: Tatasteel Reply with quote

Raja,

Nice one! Firstly i clear myself that i'm using 5TF for intraday only.If u are a swing trader based on 15TF, then you can exit when 5TF change it's trend(Dont reverse) & u can reenter in rejections based on 15TF trend.Cant TRUST this 5TF pivot.Sometimes it works, sometimes not.Yesterday firstly it taken 5 Tf pivot in Axis,BankNifty & Nifty, Finally 15Tf pivot also taken out in Axis& Bank Nifty. Nifty still pending.Last time i exited my short in Nifty @5825.95-13/04/'11 based on 5Tf pivot, it went upto 5947 and reversed in same gear.That time 15 was dwn trend & still that trend continue.......

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Jai

( Charts- BankNifty-13/34 ema s- Edu 3 Sl hit yesterday Crying or Very sad )



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Post: #567   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Iam new to this metbod of trend llowing.
I've few quetions for experts.
I want to trade nifty 30min. Whats the value for rsi sbould be used?
Yesterday on 30 min nifty, before the last 4 white candles there is a big black candle showing rejection from 34ema.Could that be used as entry?

Thanks jai and others for great guidance.
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Post: #568   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai,

Really good work. Keep it up !
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Post: #569   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAJ wrote:
Hi,
Iam new to this metbod of trend llowing.
I've few quetions for experts.
I want to trade nifty 30min. Whats the value for rsi sbould be used?
Yesterday on 30 min nifty, before the last 4 white candles there is a big black candle showing rejection from 34ema.Could that be used as entry?

Thanks jai and others for great guidance.

I as want to know the answer
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Post: #570   PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speculator wrote:
Jai,

Really good work. Keep it up !



hi spec,

Could you please answer my questions?
Also, can we go long if rejecion occur at34ema.?

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