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Swing Trading : The Speculator way
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ronypan
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Post: #736   PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks alot.. I wanted to use this method but I didn't find any proper stuff regarding d same.. Waiting for ur post in weekend..

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I have got too many questions and PMs which i have not answered. Before i forget, i will post here as a reminder to myself.

1) Is 8 ema above 34 ema required for a valid rejection ?

2) Can 5-min be used with swing system for intra?

3) Can 10-min be used for swing trading ?

4) We had a 15-min rejection, but 10-min failed to give a rejection. Should we take the 15-min rejection in that case or not ?

5) Can we use pivot breaks for entry ? If so what should be the stop loss ? What are the advantages and disadvantages of trading pivot breaks ?

6) Role of RSI(5) in determining pivots.

I will answer all these questions over the weekend. I will also be adding a small refinement to the price above 8 ema rule.

This thread has grown too big and it's very difficult for a newbie to find the relevant sections of the method. So i will be moving some of the stuff related to the technique into another thread.

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Post: #737   PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Crude Reply with quote
The magic of Pivot Breakkkk- 100 points within few mnts



Spec sir thanks

Jai

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Post: #738   PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Crude Reply with quote
Jai:

you, spec, sumit and others make me thirsty to start commo Very Happy

great trade on crude, buddy. booked profits or holding? and why is there no 'woooooooo' like the standard procedure of ichartians? Very Happy

Have a nice day

Cheers

DJ


Jai2000 wrote:
The magic of Pivot Breakkkk- 100 points within few mnts



Spec sir thanks

Jai
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Post: #739   PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
NF 30min still in downtrend with downswing pivot at 5608
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Post: #740   PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: Nifty Pivot Reply with quote
Nifty new Down Swing Pivot 15 & 30 TF- 5576.30


Jai


( i've marked 5476.30 it's typing error & the Pivot is 5576.35

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Post: #741   PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Nifty Pivot Reply with quote
Jai2000 wrote:
Nifty new Down Swing Pivot 15 & 30 TF- 5476.30


Jai




jai

down swing pivot is now 5576.3 Smile
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Post: #742   PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Nifty Pivot Reply with quote
Avinash,

Very Happy sorry it's typing error.......

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Post: #743   PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
At end-of-day 10-June-2011

NF 30min Downswing pivot 5577
BNF 30min Upswing pivot 10330
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Post: #744   PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I posted Nifty EOD pivots in another thread. I did this exercise on EOD charts for the first time, since this thread was started.

http://www.icharts.in/forum/viewtopic,t,3425.html#25588

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Post: #745   PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am posting BNF 60min chart (picture title wrongly mentions 30min).

Currently running in upswing with upswing pivot at 10330 and has made a high of 10984.

Point A is retracement below ema and also rsi<30>70 but not a new high in price for this swing. So as of now 'A' can not be an upswing pivot.

Subsequently, 'A' is broken.
Now can we take 'B' as the point to be overtaken (instead of 10984), upon which , we may designate a higher bottom compared to 10330 as upswing pivot?

please try to clear me on this.

regards

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Post: #746   PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear Vinst,

Refer the chart

To consider pt A as pivot we need a new recovery high.. yes you are right

Once earlier pivot is taken out we wait for rejection and if we get the new recovery high or low the pivot shifts..

It is clear to you..after pt A we did not get new recovery high so pivot will not shift.. and unless we break 10330 the trend will not reverse it will be in uptrend only..there is no meaning in between tops and bottoms

Yeh ekdam aasan hai ..iski pehchan ke liye simples sa rule hai

Me do pahadoki chotiya dekhta hoo..bichki khai yane pivot .. ye khai 34 ko touch karni chahiye... if it doesnot then at lest rsi 5 shld be OS ..

Smile

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JJM

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Post: #747   PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jjm wrote:
Dear Vinst,

Refer the chart

To consider pt A as pivot we need a new recovery high.. yes you are right

Once earlier pivot is taken out we wait for rejection and if we get the new recovery high or low the pivot shifts..

It is clear to you..after pt A we did not get new recovery high so pivot will not shift.. and unless we break 10330 the trend will not reverse it will be in uptrend only..there is no meaning in between tops and bottoms

Yeh ekdam aasan hai ..iski pehchan ke liye simples sa rule hai

Me do pahadoki chotiya dekhta hoo..bichki khai yane pivot .. ye khai 34 ko touch karni chahiye... if it doesnot then at lest rsi 5 shld be OS ..

Smile

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JJM


JJM,
Thanks for explaining.

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Post: #748   PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: Crude Oil 15Tf Trade Reply with quote
Spec sir,

One of my thrilling experience yesterday, 15TF pivot trade @crudeoil.Usually my entries are always at pivot cross.Yesterday crude crosed upswing pivot @4400 and my short sell order trigerd @ 4398. Low was just 4397 and again it crsd dwnpivot @4439. So my Loss 40 Points. It made new high @4470 and again it crosd downswing pivot too@4397.Again 40 points loss. BUt below 4398 low was 4242.......( 156) points. All happend within 4 hrs. Day end my net profit 35 points after all loss! I'm really happy to got yr strategy.Previous 2 swings were 130 + 180 points.
[ (4442-4575) (4512-4326)] .I got 100+ 110 points! icon_thx

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( correction- uppivot 4400 not 4440 )

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Post: #749   PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Jai,thats a grt trade which u hd done with crude. i m also following spec sir's method..but even nw i m nt able to overcm fear of taking each n every move..plz suggest hw u hv maintained ur mind as rock solid(without emotions) to follow a strategy wholeheartedly inspite of hitting some stoplosses....

reply awaited

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Post: #750   PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
jjm wrote:
Dear Vinst,

Refer the chart

To consider pt A as pivot we need a new recovery high.. yes you are right

Once earlier pivot is taken out we wait for rejection and if we get the new recovery high or low the pivot shifts..

It is clear to you..after pt A we did not get new recovery high so pivot will not shift.. and unless we break 10330 the trend will not reverse it will be in uptrend only..there is no meaning in between tops and bottoms

Yeh ekdam aasan hai ..iski pehchan ke liye simples sa rule hai

Me do pahadoki chotiya dekhta hoo..bichki khai yane pivot .. ye khai 34 ko touch karni chahiye... if it doesnot then at lest rsi 5 shld be OS ..

Smile

Regards,

JJM


JJM / Jai / Spec sir,
is there no way to 'shorten' this type of large SL which remains large for many days?

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