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ajayhkaul
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Post: #331  Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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They have been doing this for 30 odd years ..psalm!
What makes them think it will work now?
You know the problem?
Its DEMOGRAPHY ie an AGING population .Old people dont spend on anything except medicine !
Same problem with the west.
Thats why India will survive ..... |
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| Post: #332 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have read somewhere that the trade deficit is only a temporary phenomenon. It happened because of the tsunami....the destruction was so heavy that they had to import A LOT.....anyway, its very much evident that their aging population has taken its toll on their economy. India will have an advantage in that respect, only if our next generation grows in good health, educatoin and other social conditions. Good health, education and other social condition will help them generate good income. Only then their income will improve which will improve their purchasing power. In that way, our country can march away with our famous domestic consumption theme....  |
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| Post: #333 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| domestic consumption is a dangerous thing to be proud of sam. One day this same high population will put us in huge problems |
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ajayhkaul
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| Post: #334 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | | domestic consumption is a dangerous thing to be proud of sam. One day this same high population will put us in huge problems |
That , vinay is exactly what K-CYCLES are all about. So make hay while the sun shines! |
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| Post: #335 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| psalm wrote: | | only if our next generation grows in good health, education and other social conditions. Good health, education and other social condition will help them generate good income. Only then their income will improve which will improve their purchasing power. In that way, our country can march away with our famous domestic consumption theme.... |
Sam: I read that in Africa one dose of "chikki" at lunchtime to starving school children improved their attendance and IQ (by >40 pts!!!). In India we have Rs 300 cr reserved for closing ceremony of XYZ and ABC Games but anath and vruddh ashram operators come begging for funds becos the Govt. has not released "sanctioned" funds for 3 years. A minister started a smear campaign agnst Iskcon Akshay Patra becos they didnt want his meddling. Can we not ensure ONE MEAL of CHIKKI to our poor every day? (We are the same people who touch a cow reverently and devoutly taste its shit and piss while watching it munch plastic bags full of staple pins) Regards Prakash Holla |
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ajayhkaul
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| Post: #336 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| pkholla wrote: | | psalm wrote: | | only if our next generation grows in good health, education and other social conditions. Good health, education and other social condition will help them generate good income. Only then their income will improve which will improve their purchasing power. In that way, our country can march away with our famous domestic consumption theme.... |
Sam: I read that in Africa one dose of "chikki" at lunchtime to starving school children improved their attendance and IQ (by >40 pts!!!). In India we have Rs 300 cr reserved for closing ceremony of XYZ and ABC Games but anath and vruddh ashram operators come begging for funds becos the Govt. has not released "sanctioned" funds for 3 years. A minister started a smear campaign agnst Iskcon Akshay Patra becos they didnt want his meddling. Can we not ensure ONE MEAL of CHIKKI to our poor every day? (We are the same people who touch a cow reverently and devoutly taste its shit and piss while watching it munch plastic bags full of staple pins) Regards Prakash Holla |
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| Post: #337 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| pkholla wrote: | | psalm wrote: | | only if our next generation grows in good health, education and other social conditions. Good health, education and other social condition will help them generate good income. Only then their income will improve which will improve their purchasing power. In that way, our country can march away with our famous domestic consumption theme.... |
Sam: I read that in Africa one dose of "chikki" at lunchtime to starving school children improved their attendance and IQ (by >40 pts!!!). In India we have Rs 300 cr reserved for closing ceremony of XYZ and ABC Games but anath and vruddh ashram operators come begging for funds becos the Govt. has not released "sanctioned" funds for 3 years. A minister started a smear campaign agnst Iskcon Akshay Patra becos they didnt want his meddling. Can we not ensure ONE MEAL of CHIKKI to our poor every day? (We are the same people who touch a cow reverently and devoutly taste its shit and piss while watching it munch plastic bags full of staple pins) Regards Prakash Holla |
i agree with your views prakash.....the first priority should be given to hunger...rather than anything else....its foolish to think that people will improve when they cant even find a single meal....we need another green revolution, I guess......also, i hope some policy initiatives like the FOOD SECURITY bill will help.....but again....fingers crossed....because of the indian politicians....  |
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| Post: #339 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Such resistances are broken only by rampaging bulls .... so likely at this time |
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| Post: #340 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Including me People are saying that till the last bear turns in to bull, market will not fall.
I thought about it and decided to remain as a bear whatever may happen to Nifty.
Fundamentals are really bad and it’s rational to be a bear……I have no problem with that.
Due to the reason that last bear still exist market will not fall …All the people can make profits including my wife.
Some people may question you still carry your longs how can you term yourself as a bear?....True!
Soon I am going to exit…… all my longs. Then I will have a legitimate right to be a bear. |
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| Post: #341 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| then you better quit fast |
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| Post: #342 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Post: #343 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: |
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The fact that FII’s have free money from their governments at their disposal is no way is going to change the fundamentals. They are using this money to their best advantage.
Their theory is simple. If they gain, it is theirs and when they lose, it is government’s money in the form of bail out (Then its public money... in other words looting public wealth legally).
And their government does not have to bother about money after all. Their printing press is in full swing, working full time if not over time.
Liquidity driven market rally is not going to change the fundamentals.
Remember the words of the founder of this thread.” If you are not at wedding don’t be at funeral.”
Now all efforts are at work to attract retail investors. Be cautious! Ride your longs; think twice before initiating fresh longs.
Liquidity can change directions fast. Before changing it too it give you a false impression that it is going to be forever and at an opportune time it may take shelter at other avenues abandoning equity .The point Just before that could be the top of the market.
However it’s not going to happen in a hurry! like the nifty move from 4400 to 5600.It takes its own time …sufficient time to attract suckers……Are you going to be one?! |
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| Post: #344 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| rk_a2003 wrote: | The fact that FII’s have free money from their governments at their disposal is no way is going to change the fundamentals. They are using this money to their best advantage.
Their theory is simple. If they gain, it is theirs and when they lose, it is government’s money in the form of bail out (Then its public money... in other words looting public wealth legally).
And their government does not have to bother about money after all. Their printing press is in full swing, working full time if not over time.
Liquidity driven market rally is not going to change the fundamentals.
Remember the words of the founder of this thread.” If you are not at wedding don’t be at funeral.”
Now all efforts are at work to attract retail investors. Be cautious! Ride your longs; think twice before initiating fresh longs.
Liquidity can change directions fast. Before changing it too it give you a false impression that it is going to be forever and at an opportune time it may take shelter at other avenues abandoning equity .The point Just before that could be the top of the market.
However it’s not going to happen in a hurry! like the nifty move from 4400 to 5600.It takes its own time …sufficient time to attract suckers……Are you going to be one?! |
I have read an interview with Nirmal Jain, where he was arguing that this liquidity can improve fundamentals....check the link below rk...
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/market-outlook/mkt-sentiment-bullishpeople-want-to-enternirmal-jain_669403.html |
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ajayhkaul
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| Post: #345 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Yes RK .. the choice is to go with the flow and hope to jump off early enough or just keep off if it makes you uncomfortable.
Everyone has a different risk tolerance level....so we leave it to the reader.
Meanwhile there is entertainment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8tj4yEghTc&feature=related
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