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Trading STOCKS using Swing pivot system
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sumesh_sol
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Post: #16   PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jai for precise and clear reply.. It will certainly help me deal with any such further scenario.. Smile

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Sumesh
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Post: #17   PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject: GAIL update Reply with quote

GAIL update
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Gail has closed below up pivot 442.3 on 15/30 tf . So we can short now, and add more short if gets proper rejection at 15tf/30tf.

Down Pivot is 454 now.

Am I correct Jai/rain ?
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Post: #18   PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: SAIL.. 30 tf Reply with quote

SAIL.. 30 tf
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SAIL is in uptrend now (30 minutes time frame), first pull back is in process.... The moment I get a proper rejection , I shall go long...

Although target fixing is a no-no in this method, still based on fib. count on weekly 186/200 levels are achievable (LTP-146). Ofcourse , if SL gets hit before that, I shall be out already...

Regards,
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Post: #19   PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jai/ Sumesh,

Can you please help identifying me the swing pivots for Airtel in 30 mins charts. Is it still in uptrend??

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Chetan.
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Post: #20   PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i think, there are 3 types of pivots in this method.
1.crossover
2.rejection
3swing high/low ( also known as downswing / upswing pivot.)

i want to know whether trend reversal takes place only when dsp/usp is broken or the positions can be reversed if latest rejection pivot is broken?eg the chart posted by sumesh for bajaj auto the latest rejection pivot is broken but swing direction is said to be reversed iff usp is broken.
breaking of rejection pivot can be used to exit existing position and not for entering trade in reverse direction?
.also the best position to enter is first rejection pivot.
is it correct?
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girish
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Post: #21   PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Gail Pivot Reply with quote

Sumesh,

hello 450.45 is the Downswing pivot both 15 & 30 Tf s. Neutral

Jai.
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Post: #22   PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:30 am    Post subject: BhartiAirtel- Pivots Reply with quote

Chetan,

Bharti 30Tf is in down trend & the pivot is 389.85. 15 TF is in uptrend & the pivot is -363.55.

Jai.
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Post: #23   PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Pivot Trading Reply with quote

Girish,

hello how possible 3 types of pivots? There is only one pivot. Rejection candle's high or low is only SL for day traders or it would be a TSL for swing traders. And yes you are correct rejection based entry is safe to enter a swing trade.

Jai
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Post: #24   PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: BhartiAirtel- Pivots Reply with quote

Jai2000 wrote:
Chetan,

Bharti 30Tf is in down trend & the pivot is 389.85. 15 TF is in uptrend & the pivot is -363.55.

Jai.


Hi Jai,

Thanks for your response. But pls make me clear that how is it possible that 1 script can have uptrend and downtrend rejection in 2 close TF. Also which TF is better to trade at.
Here in Bharti Airtel, a person who is short in 30 min TF will have to keep SL at 389.85 (28/4/11). But again if we take last week when Bharti was trading at 375 (28/5/11), was it a right time to short it or when it was trading at 387 on 2/6/11.

Please make me clear in this aspect.

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Post: #25   PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Bhartiairtel Reply with quote

Chetan,

hello sorry the Pivot i mentiond is for 60TF. 30Tf also in uptrend pivot is 345.70.

Here in Bharti Airtel, a person who is short in 30 min TF will have to keep SL at 389.85 (28/4/11).

how 30Tf trader's Sl would be pivot? 382.25 was upswing pivot.So 30tf trader would hav been shorted @ 382.25 with SL of389.85. Low was 345.70 nearly 45 point profits. R:R-1:7 .After this much profits one should use TSl to protect his profits. Spec sir clearly explained abt using TSL.You can find it here
http://www.icharts.in/forum/trade-management-the-speculator-way-t3221.html

Chetan TF is yr choice! Pls ask Spec sir!

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Jai
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Post: #26   PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjm wrote:
Dear All

At last RIL broke DSP

Now trending up with upswing pivots

15 tf : 898.70
30 tf : 898.70

Sbin still no changes down trending with down swing pivots
15 tf : 2358.20
30 tf : 2688.55

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JJM

Hi

Sbin and Ril

Cash

Down trending in all tf with piovts

15 tf : 2358.20
30 tf : 2688.55
60 tf : 2688.55

Future : a mixed scenario

downtrending in 15 tf with downswing pivot 2364.00
uptrending in 30 and 60 tf with upswing pivot 2301.15

Ril

Cash :
15 tf uptrending with upswing pivot 898.70
30 tf uptrending with upswing pivot 898.70
60 tf uptrending with upswing pivot 898.70

Future :

15 tf downtrending with downswing pivot 970.65
30 tf downtrending with downswing pivot 970.65
60 tf downtrending with downswing pivot 970.65


So now how to trade future down and cash up wallbash

reagrds,

JJM

JJM,

guess u by mistake posted this in the nf thread.so i copy pasted for us to continue the discussion here Smile

and i find the 15tf sbin fut pivots different. Request u and jai to look into it.

Sandhya



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Post: #27   PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudaya,, Very Happy

Thanks for putting it in right thread

Hv a look at chart posted ..trust, it will clear your doubts

Sbin_f broke today usp @ 2301..so it is short in all Tf

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JJM



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Post: #28   PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: SAIL.. 30 tf Reply with quote

sumesh_sol wrote:
SAIL.. 30 tf
*************
SAIL is in uptrend now (30 minutes time frame), first pull back is in process.... The moment I get a proper rejection , I shall go long...

Although target fixing is a no-no in this method, still based on fib. count on weekly 186/200 levels are achievable (LTP-146). Ofcourse , if SL gets hit before that, I shall be out already...

Regards,
Sumesh


The moment I get a proper rejection , I shall go long...

And to me the moment has come.. today's 10:30 candle seems to be a rejection on 34 for Long... Although, didn't close above 34 ema on 30tf.. I still feel is good enough..

I'm long now.. Valuable Feedback are invited ..

Thanks and Regards,
Sumesh



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Post: #29   PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjm wrote:
Sudaya,, Very Happy

Thanks for putting it in right thread

Hv a look at chart posted ..trust, it will clear your doubts

Sbin_f broke today usp @ 2301..so it is short in all Tf

Regards,

JJM


Thanks jjm . i missed the point at 26/5/11. That was a clear explanation. Thanks Very Happy
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Post: #30   PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Sbin and Ril

Cash

Down trending in all tf with piovts

15 tf : 2358.20
30 tf : 2688.55
60 tf : 2688.55

Future : broke today usp @ 2301.15 in 30 and 60 tf

downtrending in all tf with downswing pivot 2364.00

Ril

Cash : uptrending in all tf with upswing pivot 898.70

Future :

downtrending in all tf with downswing pivot 970.65


reagrds,

JJM
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